Comments on: At What Point Do We Realize: We Must All Fight https://stopsmartmeters.org/2012/04/04/at-what-point-do-we-realize-we-must-all-fight/ Fighting for health, privacy, and safety Sun, 08 Jul 2012 03:54:18 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5 By: letta mego https://stopsmartmeters.org/2012/04/04/at-what-point-do-we-realize-we-must-all-fight/#comment-60009 Sun, 08 Jul 2012 03:54:18 +0000 https://stopsmartmeters.org/?p=4334#comment-60009 You’d have to take a course in human physiology to really get how harmful these smart meters are. I guess our lack of knowledge is what the utility company and government is counting on. The harm starts at the membrane that surrounds the living cell. That alone is reason enough to ban smart meters. Smart meters have 2 antennae. One beams radiation into the home and the other beams radiation outward. In the smart meter is an operating system (computer) and software that can definitely be hacked. There is nothing good about smart meters. They are just something dreamed ($$$) up by the telecommunication industry and the utility companies by people who don’t know a thing about biology or or health…… Or don’t care…because we don’t immediately drop dead …and they know they’ll have their money and be long gone before we wise up. It’s pretty mysterious how the world population is against smart meters but smart meters are still being forced on us. How did that happen?

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By: Best Mom https://stopsmartmeters.org/2012/04/04/at-what-point-do-we-realize-we-must-all-fight/#comment-47956 Sun, 06 May 2012 17:14:48 +0000 https://stopsmartmeters.org/?p=4334#comment-47956 I WOULD RATHER FIGHT TO LIVE SMART METER FREE THEN LIVE FIGHT TO BE CANCER FREE

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By: Josette Vettel https://stopsmartmeters.org/2012/04/04/at-what-point-do-we-realize-we-must-all-fight/#comment-44757 Sat, 14 Apr 2012 09:52:28 +0000 https://stopsmartmeters.org/?p=4334#comment-44757 In reply to Redi Kilowatt.

please do this wih peaceful mesures
Please study the reacton of harmonic sounding center rates smart meters”
we can do this in groups. gather your friends and neightors
and create a march while sounding some will feel embarest
but talk them into just tring it and see if they get a inner reaction make it fun and see what happens

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By: Josette Vettel https://stopsmartmeters.org/2012/04/04/at-what-point-do-we-realize-we-must-all-fight/#comment-44756 Sat, 14 Apr 2012 09:49:54 +0000 https://stopsmartmeters.org/?p=4334#comment-44756 In reply to Redi Kilowatt.

please do this wih peaceful mesures
Please study the reacton of harmonic sounding center rates smart meters”
we can do this in groups. gather your friends and neightors
and create a march while sounding some will feel embarest
but talk them into just tring it and see if they get a inner reaction make it fun and see what happens.

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By: Maureen https://stopsmartmeters.org/2012/04/04/at-what-point-do-we-realize-we-must-all-fight/#comment-44684 Sat, 14 Apr 2012 02:56:15 +0000 https://stopsmartmeters.org/?p=4334#comment-44684 In reply to Josette Vettel.

File a lawsuit in Small Claims court asap just like the lady from Irvine did. See the court documents on the front page of our website http://www.stopOCSmartMeters.com

Perhaps if you contact the attorneys that litigated it for SCE they may come and replace the meter. Do they really want another lawsuit like this?

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By: Redi Kilowatt https://stopsmartmeters.org/2012/04/04/at-what-point-do-we-realize-we-must-all-fight/#comment-44601 Fri, 13 Apr 2012 17:58:28 +0000 https://stopsmartmeters.org/?p=4334#comment-44601 Hey Jim,
I don’t believe one word of what you just wrote.
The simple SmartMeters being deployed have no ports to connect a laptop to, no ethernet, serial bus, coax, RS232, RS-485(building automation cable) or RJ 11 (analog telephone) connnectors on any of these simple SmartMeters.
The SmartMeters communicate total cumulative electrical use to the utility on a 900 MHz UHF radio frequency, and are not connected to the internet in any way.
Perhaps you are confused by some of these other internet programs where the customer can sign up for a special internet account, give them their account number and view previous electrical usage online and now on a mobile broadband network if the customer has a smart phone with the “green button” application loaded and a data plan. Regular mobile phones won’t work with green button.
Of course, this could be hacked, by a customer volunteering to activate such a service, all kinds of personal information will be transmitted over the internet cable and mobile broadband networks. That would include an customers name, building address, account number, telephone number, computer address number and an electrical consumption history starting with the previous 24 hours going back 14 months.
No, this will not enable burglars to find out if you are home in real time, but if someone has used large amounts of electricity in the last 14 months, a hacker could possibly find out about it. But so what ? There are many residential customers in my area that use extremely large amounts of electricity to power large houses and properties, and they are not doing anything wrong. It is not illegal to use electricity around here, so who cares if a hacker could possibly find out using the internet (if the customer volunteers for such a program). And the data pulses from the SmartMeters sent once every 4 hours on the radio network only contain a meter number and total cumulative reading.
It is just a compressed burst of data that lasts a few seconds, and sounds like noise on a radio scanner. This data sent from the SmartMeter goes to utility data centers, and then to the internet if the customer chooses to have it done. It is a strictly voluntary program, and so far only 22,000 out of 10 million customers have “expressed interest” in this service according to a recent report released by PG&E.
That is not a very high percentage of people wanting to view previous usage, why ?. Because it is a useless function that won’t save any energy at all, it’s just another greenwash government program to give our tax dollars to the utility and telecommunications corporations of the world.

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By: Jim https://stopsmartmeters.org/2012/04/04/at-what-point-do-we-realize-we-must-all-fight/#comment-44434 Thu, 12 Apr 2012 23:45:32 +0000 https://stopsmartmeters.org/?p=4334#comment-44434 They are being hacked already — TOLD YOU SO!!!

Smart Meter Hacks Likely to Spread
http://krebsonsecurity.com/2012/04/fbi-smart-meter-hacks-likely-to-spread/

Is there an incentive for people to hack these?
“former employees of the meter manufacturer and employees of the utility were altering the meters in exchange for cash and training others to do so.”

“connected to a laptop that allows the smart meter to communicate with the computer. After making that connection, the thieves changed the settings for recording power consumption using software that can be downloaded from the Internet.”

“This method does not require removal, alteration, or disassembly of the meter, and leaves the meter physically intact.”

“have developed a prototype of a tool and software program that lets anyone access the memory of a vulnerable smart meter device and intercept the credentials used to administer it. ”

THANKS POWER COMPANY!!!

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By: Brendan https://stopsmartmeters.org/2012/04/04/at-what-point-do-we-realize-we-must-all-fight/#comment-43735 Tue, 10 Apr 2012 01:59:28 +0000 https://stopsmartmeters.org/?p=4334#comment-43735 I propose that someone, who has the interest and knowhow, set up a
Madame DeFarge [sp] website to commence to knit a tapestry of the names
of people who actively serve as agents of the psychopathic wifi smart meter/
smart grid plan to slowly harm, and firmly control, YOU.
A California tapestry, to hang in the world wide web.

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By: Redi Kilowatt https://stopsmartmeters.org/2012/04/04/at-what-point-do-we-realize-we-must-all-fight/#comment-43728 Tue, 10 Apr 2012 01:20:28 +0000 https://stopsmartmeters.org/?p=4334#comment-43728 In reply to Redi Kilowatt.

News flash.
I just saw a short segment on KTVU channel 2 news at 5:25.
It was about the wiring of America.
They explained that since 2009, the Obama administration has benevolently donated $9 BILLION of our tax money the the telecom giants for a project to “Wire up America”.
So far, they said 95 percent of America has been wired up with broadband cable systems since then. I find it hard to believe, because I know of many areas in northern California that have no broadband wires yet, and hence, no mobile phone service without the wires.
Perhaps they were talking about the urban areas, not the rural areas.
The article went on to say that even if they wire up these areas, many people cannot afford the computers and TVs to use these wires. Like I said, next, Obama will create a new program to provide the poor people with computers and TVs “so they can get the benefit of the broadband cable systems”.
They stated a fact about Contra Costa county, that even though the county is 95 percent wired, only 60 percent of the people can afford the monthly cable service (and the devices to use it), so that leaves 40 percent of Contra Costa counties residents are too poor or don’t want high speed broadband cable.
Concast charges about $60 per month for broadband internet, and then the different TV packages range from $30 per month on up to the sky is the limit, and now they are pushing cable phone services to businesses and residential customers, and wireless TV decoders. If one bought all the services offered by the giant cable companies, their monthly bills could be anywhere from $90 per month for limited basic up to 3 or $400 per month for premium channels, sports events $150 each viewing EXTRA !
So, Obama donates out tax dollars to wire up America so the giant telecommunications corporations can wring America dry of any extra money that they might have.
More tax payer subsidies must be in the works.

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By: Mr. Bubbles https://stopsmartmeters.org/2012/04/04/at-what-point-do-we-realize-we-must-all-fight/#comment-43706 Mon, 09 Apr 2012 22:38:53 +0000 https://stopsmartmeters.org/?p=4334#comment-43706 In reply to Smarter Meters.

If you’re going to claim that “EMR/RF has the ability to prevent animals from detoxifying” in the frequencies used by smart meters and with the power they use (900MHz range) then you’d better back that up. Just “EMFs” in general is not enough. The Earth and the Sun both emit EMFs, and of course electrical wiring does too.

If bees were being hurt by EMF, you’d see more healthy bee colonies in the Radio Quiet Zone of Virginia. I’d expect bee colony collapse has been seen there, too.

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