And it must just be my “imagination” the rain in the sierra when all anyone can remember is lots of snow (not to mention very very strong and overwhelming peer-reviewed science). I’m sure all the billions of tons of gases we are emitting into our thin atmosphere, have nothing to do with the melting poles. Same energy companies as are pushing the smart grid (with more CO2 being emitted as a result) are the ones profiting from continued dithering and fossil fuel dependent projects.

False solutions like the smart grid help perpetuate the increasingly serious and dire situation we find ourselves in wrt climate. We all have our blind spots and areas of denial, myself included I’m sure, but let’s all take a look at the facts and see the harm being caused by fossil fuel and microwave technologies (including synergistic effects between the two). People love their cars and their cell phones and their fossil fueled comforts and conveniences but let’s not kid ourselves that the widespread use of these technologies isn’t leading to a very dark place indeed.

“Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts” – Richard Feynman

1871 Climate Superstition
According to the IPCC, temperatures were cold in 1871, sea level was much lower, and the climate was much more stable. All of this utter nonsense – nothing more than well financed superstition. The same mindless superstition which infected academics in 1871.

January 10th, 1871

We have often noticed that in the tabular statements of those compilers of weather records who write to the Times, useful and welcome as their communications are, every season is sure to be “extraordinary,” almost every month one of the driest or wettest, or windiest, coldest or hottest, ever known.
Much observation, which ought to correct a tendency to exaggerate, seems in some minds to have rather a tendency to increase it.

10 Jan 1871 –
IMAGINARY CHANGES OF CLIMATE.
(Pall Mall Gazette.)

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/1298497

In 1871, the New York Times was worried about climate change, just like they are now. Nothing has changed

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/77576374?searchTerm=peshtigo%20fire&searchLimits=

https://www.sandiegohistory.org/timeline/images/80-2860.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/da/090207-LaJollaCove.jpg

America’s largest and deadliest forest fire occurred this weekend in 1871, after weeks of intense heat, drought and wind.

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wioconto/PeshtigoFullFireMapOnly.jpg?cj=1&sid=skim725X619873X8ba8160689ee2b73ce5bc200b2f009e5&netid=cj&o_xid=0003662453&o_lid=0003662453&o_sch=Affiliate+External

http://query.nytimes.com/

http://news.google.com/newspapers

https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/1871-climate-superstition/

Obama and Gore favor corporate, false solutions to climate change. Exhibit A: the “smart grid.” We have hardly “bought all their lies.”

http://business.time.com/2012/07/26/obamas-smart-electrical-grid-plan/

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/03/business/energy-environment/03gore.html

Don’t try and pull a needle out of someone’s eye when you have a log in your own.

Hi Paul,

There are obviously differences of opinion in the anti-smart meter movement, and that is healthy. It would be boring if everyone agreed on everything! If the way Josh ties his shoes had an impact on the livability of the planet I would probably want to discuss that also!

Most corporate “solutions” to climate change don’t work, and create some seriously negative side effects, but real solutions like off grid renewable energy, development of non-motorized and public transportation, better land use planning, efficiency improvements, etc can reduce costs, fossil fuel use, and Electrosmog pollution at the same time. Let’s not throw the baby out with the bathwater!

Pretending differences don’t exist is a good way of making sure that those differences fester and worsen and eventually drive people apart. Discussing and debating is healthy, as long as it is done in a respectful way.

Just look at the Democrat and Republican primary contests going on right now- and how bitter and divided they have become— however when there is a nominee most people unite. I think our movement is strong and diverse and will come together when it matters.

Do I think that humans have the “power” to change our climate? When you look out an airplane window and see how we’ve altered the surface of the planet, and think about our thin layer of atmosphere, it’s hard not to admit that possibility. That, combined with a vast mountain of peer-reviewed science, and the funky weather we’ve been having and you would have to be in some pretty major psychological denial to refuse to admit there is a serious risk. Aren’t you all about the peer-reviewed science, and the precautionary principle Paul?

I don’t believe that debate or discussion is stifled in the name of unity. That’s not real unity but a pretend, sort of “fantasy unity” where people don’t know the boundaries of agreement. When there is a choice, we should all err on the side of open debate and discussion. Suppression and censorship, even when well-intentioned, always backfires.

Take Back Your Power has been a valuable tool. It doesn’t matter how Josh ties his shoes. I can’t count how many times I’ve had to put my beliefs on the back burner to advance stopping smart meters.

Sideline point. I haven’t seen one energy saving device that hasn’t harmed humanity through polluting the grid. Smart meters, solar inverters, CFL bulbs, LED bulbs,dimmer switches, and variable speed motors create frequencies known to cause nerve block in the peripheral nervous system. The electric field everyone is absorbing is toxic due to “energy saving” devices. Period! UN Agenda 21 wins. Off the planet you go!

Climate change? Of course the planet’s weather will change. Variation is good. Do you really think man has the power to change it? Really? Wasn’t this point made in the Chicken Little story? just sayin..