Comments on: Smart Grid Off the Rails, Says New Report https://stopsmartmeters.org/2012/11/28/smart-grid-funding-misspent-on-obsolete-technologies-says-new-report/ Fighting for health, privacy, and safety Wed, 12 Dec 2012 15:07:15 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.1 By: Paul H https://stopsmartmeters.org/2012/11/28/smart-grid-funding-misspent-on-obsolete-technologies-says-new-report/#comment-174109 Wed, 12 Dec 2012 15:07:15 +0000 https://stopsmartmeters.org/?p=5201#comment-174109 Anyone that is being affected by the smart meter emmissions want the problem to stop. THEY WANT IT TO END! Not take some test where it could induce a stroke or heart attack. Richard get your head checked, please! Since you don’t personally have this problem leave us that do have identical symptoms alone! If you would like to read studies there are plenty at magdahavas.com or just listen to what Mi5 Agent Barrie Trower is warning the world about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxrBLO1rAMM

I should have suggested you have dancing girls in the room with him. Maybe have a tickle festival? I wouldn’t want anyone to think that it was cruel. Just like the customer service agents at the power company when I begged them to take the meter off 2 days after it was installed. They thought I was strange for even thinking that their meter was waking me at 3:12am every morning. It was simple for them because they were told that it wasn’t cruel or since they were told by an authority figure that it was ok, like the Milgram Experiment http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W147ybOdgpE

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By: Smarter Meters https://stopsmartmeters.org/2012/11/28/smart-grid-funding-misspent-on-obsolete-technologies-says-new-report/#comment-173138 Wed, 12 Dec 2012 01:06:27 +0000 https://stopsmartmeters.org/?p=5201#comment-173138 In reply to Richard.

“The island of doubt-It’s like the taste of medicine… still waiting… still waiting…”

– ENO/BYRNE

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By: Richard https://stopsmartmeters.org/2012/11/28/smart-grid-funding-misspent-on-obsolete-technologies-says-new-report/#comment-171762 Tue, 11 Dec 2012 05:06:57 +0000 https://stopsmartmeters.org/?p=5201#comment-171762 In reply to onthelevelblog.

Which is worse? –

(1) Premeditated hope of causing harm, as you propose; or (2) being skeptical of unsubstantiated claims of harm, as I propose.

You may not like my proposal, but, really: which is worse?

I’ll say it again, if EHS is real (and I think it may be), then it should be testable. You want something to organize and get behind, then organize the research community to conduct a robust investigation beyond posting videos with EMF meters on the street and in parks…We all know the radiation is there…It’s the effects that need to be tested. It’s simply cruel to scare people with opinion and hyperbole. Simply cruel; like your premeditated hope for me.

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By: Paul H https://stopsmartmeters.org/2012/11/28/smart-grid-funding-misspent-on-obsolete-technologies-says-new-report/#comment-171451 Tue, 11 Dec 2012 01:11:41 +0000 https://stopsmartmeters.org/?p=5201#comment-171451 In reply to onthelevelblog.

With lots of metal in the room preferably sitting on a metal chair. Maybe add a WiFi router sending data just for fun?

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By: Ronny Rat https://stopsmartmeters.org/2012/11/28/smart-grid-funding-misspent-on-obsolete-technologies-says-new-report/#comment-170273 Mon, 10 Dec 2012 08:20:00 +0000 https://stopsmartmeters.org/?p=5201#comment-170273 In reply to onthelevelblog.

GOOD ONE ‘onthelevel’, HA,HA! I can’t stop
LAUGHING.

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By: Richard https://stopsmartmeters.org/2012/11/28/smart-grid-funding-misspent-on-obsolete-technologies-says-new-report/#comment-166778 Fri, 07 Dec 2012 23:21:41 +0000 https://stopsmartmeters.org/?p=5201#comment-166778 In reply to onthelevelblog.

I’m just saying that hearsay will only get so much attention. I’ve made proposals before and they’ve usually been met with “who has time to volunteer” and “how could anyone afford to volunteer” and “there are too many variables to control” and “the effects are based on cumulative exposure, not immediate” (that may have been posted on emfsafetynetwork.org)… I just don’t see “the movement” gaining any momentum without some data to support the stories.

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By: onthelevelblog https://stopsmartmeters.org/2012/11/28/smart-grid-funding-misspent-on-obsolete-technologies-says-new-report/#comment-166697 Fri, 07 Dec 2012 21:48:57 +0000 https://stopsmartmeters.org/?p=5201#comment-166697 In reply to Richard.

Richard, maybe we can strap you to a chair at various distances from a smart meter and take physiological measurements. How’s that for scientific investigation? What exactly do you propose then? I believe human ethics boards would not allow the experiment that utilities are running every day.

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By: Richard https://stopsmartmeters.org/2012/11/28/smart-grid-funding-misspent-on-obsolete-technologies-says-new-report/#comment-165241 Fri, 07 Dec 2012 00:11:12 +0000 https://stopsmartmeters.org/?p=5201#comment-165241 In reply to Ronny Rat.

Nope…Just someone with an interest in science 🙂 I’d really just like to see the claims substantiated with some hard evidence (i.e., scientific investigation)…Claims of EHS and health problems caused by SmartMeters (or other wireless transmitters) are just that: claims; and the case for wireless radiation causing health problems has no chance when argued with hearsay alone. We need more research, and I am not the one to do it, but I do take an interest in the topic. Recent studies, like this one: http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=645813#Abstract suggest some correlation, but it’s significance is uncertain. This study alone seems to suggest that there *is* some chemical effect, but does it cause harm?…That was not an objective of the study. So, I’m not ready to say that the sky is falling.

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By: Ronny Rat https://stopsmartmeters.org/2012/11/28/smart-grid-funding-misspent-on-obsolete-technologies-says-new-report/#comment-163864 Thu, 06 Dec 2012 04:30:24 +0000 https://stopsmartmeters.org/?p=5201#comment-163864 In reply to Richard.

Hey Ri ch …. are you w/PG&E?

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By: Richard https://stopsmartmeters.org/2012/11/28/smart-grid-funding-misspent-on-obsolete-technologies-says-new-report/#comment-161143 Tue, 04 Dec 2012 03:05:07 +0000 https://stopsmartmeters.org/?p=5201#comment-161143 “A new policy report … by the National Institute for Science, Law & Public Policy (NISLAPP) in Washington, D.C.” … I was really curious about the name, so I searched, and it sounds a lot more impressive than it really is.
While their objective sounds noble: “… to bring practitioners of science and law together to develop intelligent policy that best serves all interested parties in a given controversy” (LINK) http://electromagnetichealth.org/electromagnetic-health-blog/wireless-technologies-cause-harm-to-children-and-adults-legislators-and-journalists-are-told/ NISLPP seems like just another front for the unsubstantiated claims of health effects due to low-power wireless communication (e.g., cellular, wifi, microwave/radio, etc).
These efforts are futile UNLESS the claims are substantiated either by the masses or by data…In the absence of masses, I’m still waiting for the data.

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