- What is a “smart” meter?
- How do I know if I have a “smart” meter or not?
- Can a “smart” meter be harmful to my health or unsafe?
- How could the government allow “smart” meters if they are harmful or unsafe?
- Who, then, does the “smart” meter benefit?
- I don’t want a “smart” meter. How can I avoid having one installed?
- I already have a “smart” meter. I don’t want it. What can I do?
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Q: What is a “smart” meter?
“Smart” Meters are digital utility meters that send customers’ detailed usage information to the utility using a radio-frequency transmitter (or over the power lines in the case of Powerline Carrier (PLC) systems. Some meters (AMI mesh networks) also contain other capabilities, such as remote shut-off. Smart Meters are part of a larger plan to change the electricity grid to a “smart” grid–though there is controversy about whether the customer meter is actually crucial to that change. Electric smart meters are replacing older analog style meters, while gas “smart” meters are generally small devices attached to existing gas meters. Wireless water meters are also being installed in many regions.
“Smart” meter planning in the United States is related to the Energy Act of 2005 and administered by the US Dept of Energy, the FCC, and each state’s public utilities commission (PUC). However, in that Act, there was NO mandate to force all residential customers to accept installation of “smart” meters–only that they would be offered. Local utility companies in many states have been approved to install “smart” meters but this does NOT mean you have to accept them on your home or business.
Q: How do I know if I have a “smart” meter or not?
See these photos of “smart” meters and these photos of analog meters, and compare to your own.
Non-transmitting analog (mechanical) electric meters typically have 5 small clock-like dials and a glass casing which allows you to see the spinning dial inside. “Smart” meters have digital displays and plastic casings which you cannot see into. Recent “smart” meters often have the word “smart” on the front, but absence of this label is no guarantee it isn’t transmitting. There are a very few mechanical meters which have a wireless-transmitting capability, which can only be identified by measuring RF emissions.
Utilities use a dizzying list of acronyms and technical terms to describe their ‘smart’ grid systems. Many insist that their meters aren’t the ‘smart’ meters that have been causing all the problems. ALL of the meter types below are ‘smart’ and are associated with health and safety problems:
AMI (Advanced Metering Infrastructure) enables two-way wireless communication between the utility and the meter. Enables remote shut off & control of appliances.
AMR (Automatic Meter Reading- or ERT) meters are typically wireless one-way meters that report usage to utility personnel in a vehicle with a handheld device. Includes ‘bubble up’ meters that transmit all the time, and ‘wake up’ systems that transmit when they receive a signal.
PLC (Power Line Communication) uses the power lines to transmit utility usage data. Though this is a wired system, ‘dirty electricity’ used to send the signal also radiates into living spaces from unshielded wiring.
“Radio Off” Digital Meters can still act as a surveillance device. They also use switch mode power supplies, linked to dirty electricity and health problems.
Bottom line: A ‘smart’ meter is any utility meter that contains electronic components. Do not accept anything less than a ‘purely electro-mechanical analog meter with no electronic components.’ Be aware that some utilities have been installing meters that appear to be analogs but in fact are fully activated ‘smart’ meters. More on the “trojan horse analog problem” here.
Q: Can a “smart” meter be harmful to my health or unsafe?
Wireless “smart” meters emit radio-frequency microwave radiation (called “RF”), similar to that used by cell phones and wifi routers. The transmissions from “smart” meters go on day and night, and are not directly related to the amount or time of household usage. See section on Mesh Network. This frequency is part of the range of frequencies recently placed in the category “possible human carcinogen” by the World Health Organization (May 2011).
Public health professionals and scientists have been concerned about human exposure to this type of low-level radiation for some time now. You may have read about ways to reduce your exposure to the RF from your cell phone. But a “smart” meter is an RF emitter that you have no control over. There is no “off” switch, nor can you move it to a different location in your home. See section on RF Radiation Issues, or section on Health Issues.
Dirty electricity from all digital electronic meters is a hazard- read more on dirty electricity here.
Q: How could the government allow “smart” meters if they are harmful or unsafe?
Many scientists and academics have written to government agencies in charge of the decision to deploy “smart” meters, to alert them as to the possible dangers in such a widespread public exposure to RF, and to urge commissions in charge of overseeing utilities to exercise more precaution. Examples: Here is a letter from the California Department of Public Health (pdf). This page contains other objections submitted to the California Public Utilities Commission from medical and public health authorities and qualified individuals.
While the elected bodies of some towns, counties, cities, and states have taken notice of the dangers involved, many have not, choosing instead to swallow the assertions made by utilities of public safety and cost-saving. Often small government agencies are at the mercy (or in the pockets) of the utilities they oversee, which are large, well-financed corporations, and thus don’t heed these calls for caution.
In the U.S., the Federal Communications Commission, a regulatory body with no doctors or medical professionals on staff, has set the guidelines for public RF exposure at a very high level, based on biased and incomplete science dating back to the 1950s. The FCC also appears to have waived some requirements for “smart”-meter manufacturers, allowing them to bend several rules that were intended to protect the public, such as not locating one transmitting meter near another transmitting meter (colocation). See this post about the FCC and “smart” meter violations. Apartment dwellers need only look for the “bank” of meters that service their building to see the precaution about colocation violated. Another provision that is ignored is the 20cm distance that is supposed to be enforced, keeping people from coming closer than that (about 8 inches). No “smart” meter that we are aware of has ever been installed in a way intended to keep people at that minimum distance.
Another FCC violation is the matter of transmitting power. A recent admission from a “smart” meter manufacturer affirmed that because of the type of antenna in their “smart” meter, the power of the transmitter may exceed the FCC limits. [See Sept 14, 2011 CPUC “opt-out” workshop videos, Part 2, at 0:13 and Part 5 at 0:16].
The current attitude of governmental bodies in the United States is that if radiation doesn’t heat tissue, it is considered safe. Ionizing radiation (e.g. x-rays) can alter molecular structures and standards for this type of radiation have been established. Non-ionizing radiation (such as cell-phone and “smart”-meter radiation) has been considered safe by government agencies because it doesn’t heat at lower levels of exposure. But a growing number of scientists, researchers, and experts feel this is a flawed position. Clear biological effects have been observed at “non-thermal” levels–most notably DNA breaks, breaches of the blood-brain barrier, and increases in brain glucose metabolism.
The RF emissions spikes from “smart” meters are supposedly under these very liberal FCC guidelines, but if the guidelines are flawed, as many who study the effects of low-level RF on humans and animals think they are, then “smart” meters are indeed a very dumb idea. See also: The Bioinitiative Report; The Seletun Statement; The Sage Report on Smart Meter RF
Q: Who, then, does the “smart” meter benefit?
Only the utility companies benefit. The utility can save itself money by getting rid of meter readers. Because the “smart” meter measures hour by hour, the utility can charge you more for electricity used during certain periods of the day of their choosing.
Their story is that this device will save you money. But there are no studies, no evidence, to back this up. In fact, in the one study done so far (from Canada), customers’ bills went up, not down. There is only one thing that will save you money on your utility bill, and that is using less electricity or gas. This is easily achievable by reducing your use of high-wattage devices (e.g. electric clothes dryer, air conditioner, and so on), choosing energy-saving appliances when it’s time to buy, and taking care to switch off electrical items not in use. Here are some ideas.
Q: I don’t want a “smart” meter. How can I avoid having one installed?
Three things: Secure your analog meter (make sure it is one first!); write your utility to let them know you refuse any “smart” meter; and/or prevent trespass on your property by your presence. Be aware that measures other than these, such as signs, have failed. Utilities have also destroyed locks and vandalized property but this opens them up to property destruction charges.
Take action now to safeguard your old meter. Prevent tampering by following some of the suggestions on this pages: Defend Your Analog Meter.
If your state or area has an opt-out, call now to make your wishes known. If it does not have such an option, advocate for it and in the mean time, take direct action and secure your analog meter. Without an opt-out, you can try calling, but your utility is very unlikely to want to allow you a choice, as they save money getting rid of your meter reader, and the mesh network depends on everyone having one of these meters. Still, some people have demanded their right to an analog, and done so repeatedly, and been able to keep or regain an analog. Prevent regret by securing your meter now.
Some people have suggested posting a sign alone is sufficient, but we have heard of too many signs simply ripped down by installers to recommend that you rely on this. You should also adapt and send these letters, but letters alone are no guarantee of avoiding installation.
Your bodily presence on your property is the best protection you can have. You have the right to prevent trespass on your property. Even one renter can ask a trespasser to leave from a building or complex. Installation periods for your area are the time to be on guard. This is difficult for many who work, but you can authorize someone else to act in your place if you need to, including neighbor. Here’s one neighbor’s story of protecting his neighborhood.
Preventing access does not mean you don’t want to pay your bill or cheat your utility; it is protecting your health and safety. If you need to, learn to read your own meter and post the numbers for your current reader, if you have one still, or send them to your utility—so that you can protect your meter by limiting access.
The bottom line is that your utility has no legal right to force a “smart” meter on your home against your will. They will threaten you with fines and service disconnection but in the end they do not have a legal right to force a device that emits what even the World Health Organization considers a Class 2B carcinogen.
Our advice is to lock up your existing analog meter securely, and ignore their letters. Talk to your neighbors and if they come to the neighborhood be prepared to drive them away.
If they disconnect your power, contact your public utilities commission immediately–they cannot disconnect a paying customer. Write us and we will publicize your story–that is just the sort of publicity that utilities try hard to avoid.
Q: I already have a “smart” meter. I don’t want it. What can I do?
Make a Call (or better yet, write a letter via certified mail) to your utility (number is on your bill) and tell them you demand an analog meter. Ask to speak to someone in management. If you have been made ill by your ‘smart’ meter, tell them about it in detail. Tell them you know of the people who have gotten analogs. Tell them you are going to the press if they don’t do the same thing for you they have done for others. Do not accept a digital non-transmitting meter— be aware they also have problems, and are not stable and secure like analog meters. Do not take ‘No’ for an answer—ask to speak to someone higher up and do not give up.
Some people, desperate to regain their health, have had ‘smart’ meters swapped out for analogs by electricians. Please read our section on changing a meter.
If you have suffered health damage from smart meters, file a complaint here:
California Public Utilities Commission Consumer Affairs Branch
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Hi,
This article is heavily biased and is not suitable for studying smart meters. I’m doing research on smart meters in Finland’s Aalto Uni as a school project. The benefits of customers in smart meters is at least: the posibility to shift your usage of high-wattage devices to hours when the electricity is cheaper -> cheaper electricity bill without reducing your electricity usage.
I hope that the readers of this article don’t believe your anti-smartmeter propaganda.
@Michael Grigoriadis We respectfully suggest that you may know something about how smart meters work in theory, and you might find that theoretical idea appealing–your livelihood may even depend on people accepting them–but you know nothing about how these devices are actually affecting people in real life.
PG&E chose a unit that is 4x as strong in emissions than other models, and some are configured to pulse 200,000x a day. People are sick. Complaints have been pouring into the CPUC, SmartMeterHelp.com, and other public agencies. We hear from people daily who have been made ill. RF in the microwave range is a IARC Class 2B carcinogen, and people have a basic human right to protect themselves from having a transmitter on their home.
You are a perfect instance of how people in the industry and in academia are utterly cut off from the real-life consequences of what you are imposing on the populace. Stop drinking the company kool-aid, get out of your ivory tower, wake up and start doing some real investigation.
Well said!!! I’m one of those people that has been poison by smart meters. I know first hand the Danger of them!!!! No one will tell me otherwise!!! I Just need to know how I can recover from it. I had the Meter taking off my house and feeling better everyday But still not a good as I was before this poison meter was put on my house. I still have some issues. My question is how do I recover fully from this? or will I???
You can recover from it- your body can heal- you just need as low RF an environment as possible, as well as good nutrition, exercise, and sleep.
What do you recommend for people who live in a state that has absolutely no op-out (PA) and will not allow you to keep your analog meter? Not everyone has enough money to have it moved to pole away from their house or they do not own their house or apartment. Living without electricity is not an option for us. There is a law here that requires all homes have smart meters.
There have been bills introduced in the State House of Representative and the Senate that will not be let out of committee so they die.
Organize organize organize! As with a union, we are stronger when we work together. A community united, aware of its rights and unwilling to accept the status quo can be very intimidating even to these large utilities. -SSM! (and in the mean time, shield, learn to live with less electricity, and turn off the breaker whenever possible!!)
Thank you Josh 🙂
I just refused to allow my electric company to replace my analog meters with smart meters. Guess there is going to be a fight. Any help will be so appreciated.
@Michael Grigoriadis Your comment seemed to imply that our pocketbook is more important than our health. I would not want to trade places with a billionaire that suffered from the symptoms forced on me due to a smart meter. I have experienced life with one of these pieces of death pulsing microwaves on my copper wiring throughout my home.
I no longer have your smart meter on my home and I have felt like a million bucks since. So I guess my point would be, would you rather feel rich or just be rich an feel like your dying?
Good for you! So many people have their heads…let me put it this way, up their yazoo when it comes to this important issue.
How did you get them to take off your digital meter? I want mine off, I had no idea about any of this. There are two behind our house right against the wall where my children would be sleeping, they sleep with me due to this fact, I dont know when they installed them. They never got my consent, bill is in my name but my fiance takes care of them. So I’ve never paid attention. I WANT THEM OFF!!!
My bill is not cheaper. I hardly run anything that would warrant $144.00 a month. I hardly run my air conditioner. I know that my heart has raced for no apparent reason and my blood pressure just suddenly out of no where went up. My heart would be pounding out of my chest.
“benefits of customers in smart meters is at least: the possibility to shift your usage of high=wattage devices to hours when the electricity is cheaper…”
If everybody “shifts” their usage from “peak power” periods to “off peak” power periods, it simply creates a new “peak power” period.
I think the idea is to shift some of the peak power to non peak periods this results in a load averaging and ultimately can lower infrastructure and delivery costs.
@Michael Grigoriadis
We need help on a Smart Meter project for school and we have no idea what this thing is about and we would like to know if you would help us on this project since you have done it before.
I have three smart meters on my home. No savings but severe headaches, erratic hypertension, heart palpitations, burning of my skin and eyes, unable to remain asleep and developed electrosensitivity. No body cares that I have had to leave my brand new home, have to dive three towns over at 5 am to take get my kids to school, am living anywhere I can to get away from the rf’s now that I have become sensitized due to the overexposure to the three meters constant emissions–up to and possibly over 180,000 pulsed transmissions per day. If the meter hasn’t affect you, yeah for you!! Now everybody has the same physiology and biological makeup. Look around–some people get cancer and some don’t. You may have high blood pressure and maybe your spouse doesn’t. You may develop Alzheimer’s and I may not. Does my not developing Alzheimer’s mean that you couldn’t possible have a legitimate case of Alzheimer’s. If You fall and break your leg but I fall and don’t break my leg, does that mean that you can’t really have a broken leg, that you are faking it, or that it is all in your head? I’m so sick of people telling me what is truly happening to people affected by these meters and what isn’t truly happening because of them. When you live the nightmare, then come talk to me. Otherwise, don’t pretend that you can know what is happening to others. Are you a physicist, electrical engineer, biochemist, physician, researcher??? If not, then thanks for your unprofessional opinion. But I will use what is happening to me and all the info out there that shows these things are unsafe for the population.
Michael Grigoriadis, wanted to ask that why aren’t GSM modules being used for transmission already considering the hazardous effects of Radio Frequency Transmission?
Before speaking of so called smartmeter propaganda, you’d better check out the studies of Dr. Mikko Ahonen, university of Tampere, Finnland. No matter for whom you may be writing incomplete or false witnesses about another source of microwave pollution technologies, please stop swearing on brilliant and enlightening articles as above. Ever been thing of sweaping work – sometimes it’ll help in thinking, arguing and taking a deep breath of fresh energie – called freedom!
I hope that you, Michael Grigoriadis, will wake up and do some real research! These meters do NOT, I repeat, DO NOT, save you money. I myself found this out after one was installed on our home and so have thousands of others. IN FACT (if you care to find out about the real facts) they cause your bill to go UP, not down. We even got little mailings from the utility company with a graph, notifying us that we were using more electricity then anyone on our block! And we have, by far, the smallest house on the block and use very little electricity. Yet our utility bills doubled when they put the meter on the house.
I can only assume you are referring to the “time of use” that is typically the PROPAGANDA that you – as a schill for the utility company – gives out to people in order to convince them to accept these pulsing microwave radiation meters. THEY PULSE and THEY RADIATE – 24/7. Stop telling lies. We are on to the lies already and thousands of thousands and thousands of people are exposing these lies in exchange for the Truth.
Santa Claus, I agree with your experience on bills going up after the installation of the “smart meter”. My bill has continued to climb since the smart meter was installed (without my knowledge or consent) 3 years ago.
My previous high bills were around Christmas when we had out door lights running for a couple months. The bills for those months were $110 to $120. Summer months the bills were around $50. I went on a budget pay plan which averaged the payments out over the year. It started at $70 per month and rose continually over the years.
After the installation of the smart meters DTE was raising my payment every 3 months until it got to $240 per month. During this time frame, I was buying and installing energy efficient appliances, devices and lights. NOTHING I have done has reversed this trend of my escalating electric bill. It hasn’t even keep it the bill at the same level.
Today as I was preparing my taxes, I pulled the records on line for my utilities and could not believe what I saw for this years electric bills compared to last year. Part of this is my fault because I opted for electronic billing and automatic payments. I did find out when I called to complain and blame the increase on these smart meters, that I could switch back to the analog meter. There is a charge of $67 to switch back and a monthly charge of a little over $9 to have the meter read but I opted out of the smart meter. I found this blog and your comments while trying to find information from others that have opted out of the smart meter.
I’m looking for confirmation that they saw a decrease in their usage and bill. It’s easy to find complaints that their bills went up, as both you and I have seen. What I would like to know is did their bills go down after switching back? What was you experience, if you were able to switch back?
No, Michael , we are not believers, we are informed and educated adults. Thank you for your opinions. We all have them. Dime a dozen.
Sorry Michael, but many of us readers do not agree with you and prefer what the warnings are regarding smart meters, please read what the admin has rebuffed to your comment below. thank you.
@admin: “RF in the microwave range is a IARC Class 2B carcinogen…” It *is*? That’s not how I read their assessment, and I think you know that just as well as anyone. Correct?
“So the classification 2B, possibly carcinogenic, holds for all types of radiation within the radiofrequency part of the electromagnetic spectrum, including the radiation emitted by base-station antennas, radio/TV towers, radar, Wi-Fi, smart meters, etc.”
Those are the words of Robert A. Baan, The IARC Monographs IARC, Lyon, FRANCE, after the announcement was made, in an email response to someone asking for clarification on the matter. PDF here.
Exactly…And the key distinction here is the word “possibly”, and that *is* important. Wouldn’t you agree that “possibly carcinogenic” has a very different meaning than “is carcinogenic”, and that your readers might value conveyance of truth rather than misrepresentation of the truth? Maybe you meant to convey the true meaning of the 2B classification, but that’s not what came across in your reply to MG.
@Richard: do you ever get tired of being a troll?
on December 9, 2011 you posted:
“You’re too kind.
I won’t be reading or posting here any more.
Goodbye.”
Your insistence that we all be as redundant as you is laughable.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IARC_Group_1_carcinogens
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IARC_Group_2A_carcinogens
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IARC_Group_2B_carcinogens
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IARC_Group_3_carcinogens
Is it trolling to point out the facts, so that forum readers understand the truth behind the hype? I’m not looking for an argument; just wanting to share the facts. You can’t–well, you can, but one shouldn’t–cherry pick and alter the facts to suit your argument. To state that “RF in the microwave range is a IARC Class 2B carcinogen” is totally misleading. It is *not* known to be a carcinogen, and to mislead the public with such baloney is what’s laughable.
Richard, do the research for us. rent an apartment with a smart meter right outside your bedroom wall. Get back to us in a year or so, if you’re still alive.
The American EPA list Radiofrequencies as a class 2A PROBABLE Carcinogen in their draft report. The financial repercussions to industry were too great and only as a result of intensive industry lobbying was it listed as a 2B possible. Remember it was for all intensive purposes meant to be published as a 2A PROBABLE.
Richard and fellow travelers buy into AGW hysteria/hype (the supposed raison d’etre for smart meters in the first place), then object to radiation concerns as stated here as “hype”.
Hilarious.
This is not the place for debating AGW… But since you brought it up… Is it the reason for the existence of SmartMeters? I really don’t know… But I certainly am glad that we don’t have to communicate anymore through tin cans connected by a string. 🙂
You did that in your lifetime? How stupid!! tin cans, indeed, so primitive, tin cans, hahahaha
Maybe that’s why your head is screwed up now. Believing that tin cans is gonna get ur message across. Ur an old idiot. Time to retire. As for the rest of us living this bs, it’s time to take action. I am having all of the exact symptoms. I even went to west Texas for a week to get out of this area and wa la. Felt great! Get back, 3 days later. Dizziness again. I can’t stand this smart meter bs. I saw the guy install it he came in my yard about 3 months ago. That’s when all this began. I had bought the house cash at auction and it hadn’t been lived in for years I think since 2011. So it had the older meter. He replaced with the new smart meter. I’m pretty pissed. Luckily there’s a lot of electric companies in Houston that compete for business so I’m hoping for the best when I talk to them.
Lead paint is in the same class 2b category. Chronic exposure to anything affecting us on a biological level is a poison. The professors can’t teach their pre med students common sense.
Yes, Paul…We all know that lead has been placed in the same class (2B), but just because it is toxic to humans (affecting brain development, etc.) does not make it carcinogenic to humans.
Lead is a very definite toxin in humans, but its “carcinogenicity” rests on limited or insufficient evidence to support the notion that it “is possibly carcinogenic to humans”. http://monographs.iarc.fr/ENG/Preamble/CurrentPreamble.pdf
And I love how “baldrad” accuses me (for some reason) of buying into AGW, when both of you clearly have bought into the limited and insufficient evidence for the carcinogenicity of low-power RF radiation.
Your arguments again fall flat. Bummer.
Richard, since you brought up the notion that lead is toxic to our brains, are you ignoring that our brains absorb microwaves? Or are you saying that there is no evidence that microwaves have an affect on water? Are you ignoring that our brains use electricity at a much lower frequency to function properly? Did you know that the pineal gland produces melatonin when it doesn’t sense light? Are you aware that the pineal gland recognizes microwaves as light and stops or decreases melatonin production? Did you know that melatonin is four times more powerful than vitamin c? Did you know that women working night shifts have a higher rate of cancer and lower levels of melatonin?
Please look into these questions (statements) and verify them for yourselves. There is a reason why we have day and night. We need darkness for production of melatonin. As we sleep microwaves from the smart meter are absorbed by our brains. This is why people all over America are waking up at the time mass amounts of data are being sent. Ask your friends if they are waking at 3am. This may shock you.
Paul, I realize that you like to cite the 3AM wakening as some sort of anomaly related to SmartMeter transmission, but you have never (to my knowledge) demonstrated the increased transmission activity… and, anyhow, most adults will wake about that time as part of a normal sleep cycle… So, should anyone be surprised that all of their neighbors are waking about that time? Seems pretty normal to me. Anyone else want to weigh in here? AND if anyone can demonstrate the correlation of sleep disturbance with increased SmartMeter activity, then I’m all ears. I’d love to see your data. 🙂
Roku always produce large microwave frequencys usually starts at 3 am until about 5 or 7am unless hardwired.
And, FWIW, here’s a link to visualize a “normal” sleep cycle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnogram
What is the mechanism?
The pineal gland produces melatonin (the stuff that makes you sleep) when the eye doesn’t sense light waves.
http://www.vivo.colostate.edu/hbooks/pathphys/endocrine/otherendo/pineal.html
Light waves are identical to man made rf waves.
When light waves or rf waves are absorbed by the eye melatonin production is stopped and then serotonin is produced. Hence the instant “feel like you drank a pot of coffee feeling”. I’ve noticed that dogs and rooster are being affected.
Smart meters turn the power up to 4 watts for 90 seconds once a day. Sometimes it’s the 3am hour and also have noticed the 4am time period too (I have both a bulky spectrum analyzer and portable density analyzer) . The type of communication used by the smart meter penetrates most everything in your home and is amplified by up to 20db, when absorbed by metal. Every home is composed of different metals It would be difficult to find identical situations.
Water absorbs energy emitting from the smart meter. This might be why only one person in the bed wakes up. That person may have absorbed the energy that was directed towards the head.
Did ya get it?
Are you serious? Yes, light and RF are both electromagnetic waves… but do you state that the brain can “see” radio frequency and keep awake?
Give me a break!
You may even consider to sleep wearing a metallic helmet, Faraday cage style…
Seriously, if the human brain could sense EM waves we might become super humans.
The only concern here is home privacy, no health issues.
There are many concerns here. You’ve just tried to narrow it down and ignore the rest; your willingness to be ignorant (without evidence) doesn’t mean I need to. I’m also an engineer but that doesn’t make me right, just because I say something backed by zero evidence. This reeks of shill.
There are many concerns here. You’ve just tried to narrow it down and ignore the rest; your willingness to be ignorant (without evidence) doesn’t mean I need to. I’m also an engineer but that doesn’t make me right, just because I say something backed by zero evidence. This reeks of shill.
I am told…by some very intellectual people… Yet again, no sources, no data, no information other than a shill paid-for opinion with nothing to back it up. This is disgusting that people could stoop so low. If you are going to act intelligent, say intelligent things, be part of a discourse not a dis-information machine with no evidence. I’m not name calling I’m just stating the obvious. Some people are sadly missing common sense.
watch it, whose side are you on anyway? those that want to oppose it for health reasons, whats your goal in trying to prevent it anyway – can you not just agree to disagree without insulting? I think its possible. Try again.
youre a moron.
im an engineer
did radiation work for dod,
programs at most nuclear sites in america
you dont understand radiation and how small doses add up over time.
please stop lying to people .
Mr Engineer,
Understand the electrical response of the body before going any further. Microwaves are absorbed by water. The brain is electrical and is made up of 73% water. It has been recorded at 4 Hertz and below while sleeping. The reason why heat is generated, while on a cell phone, is due to resistance….it’s not on the same frequency..
The cell is alive and uses tiny electrical impulses for communication….it doesn’t take much. Unfortunately your professors can only understand that for damage to occur RF must behave as a gamma or x-ray.
The 2013 Nobel Prize Winners found that when you interrupt intercellular communication you get problems. http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/medicine/laureates/2013/press.html
Yes, quite a few people will need to sleep in a Faraday cage with the power off to get a good night’s sleep. With that being said, I get the best sleep in a cave…..
http://terrance.who.int/mediacentre/audio/press_briefings/VPC_31MAY2011_IARCmonograph.mp3
“Let me just briefly summarize in English that in fact the topic for this meeting was “Radio Frequency Electromagnetic Fields” and this includes the microwaves. Most of the epidemiological evidence as we have summarized here is from epidemiological studies on the use of mobile phones and certain brain cancers, but the microwaves are in fact included in the wider evaluation.”
hopefully that clears things up for you.
I was just told that if I don’t accept the smart meter, AEP, here in Texas will cut off my electricity. I am disabled and cannot afford to have my electric cut off so I told them to go ahead and install the meter. I do not have what it takes to fight these people. This is just the beginning of Communism in the good old USA and they know that many of us can’t do anything about it.
What are you talking about? This is the exact opposite of communism. This is deregulated capitalism, where the business gets to decide what it wants to do without any interference from government.
This is not capitalism. Free market capitalism would have other utilities to choose from. This is collectivist utilities that are supported by government. The Public Service Commissions do not allow alternative utilities to even exist. One must go off grid on their own and figure it out and pay for it. It is against the law to make a new utility that offers analog meters. No competition is allowed. That is more like socialism in a forced way. There are NO options or choices in a controlled public utility situation. That is not capitalism, my friend.
it is definitely capitalism. but it is also monopoly. It is being done for profit, to exploit captive households without any other means. The one common word that applies to all this is, TYRANNY.
I agree this is socialism or Communism since we have no choice. Here in PA Act 129 is law that the Public Utility Commission implements and we have to have smart meters whether we want them or not, if we have medical issues where the smart meter would make it worse, etc. These meters are not safe and they are also capable of spying on us. I m curious why the government wants every house to have one and what is their agenda?
While Al Gore was in office a nasty little bill called The Telecommunication Act was made. It must be a total coincidence that he heavily invested in the technology that delivers death? Most people on his side are coincidentally into eugenics.
The power companies were given billions to the power companies to implement it.
Everyone is to have a cellphone and it just so happens to be part of the Obamacare bill. In poor areas there are stands handing out free cellphones.
There is nothing capitalist about anything mentioned above.
All the problems you speak of I have noticed as well as people I know Here in Santa Barbara VP Al Gore came to town to speak about Gobal warning. He thought the city schould paint the sidewalks blue to show you will be under water, Then bought one of them for 10-11 million.If that dosen’t sum it up I don’t know what dose !!!
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Interesting and thank you for pointing it out Paul. Sometimes I seriously wonder why are so many people opposed to questioning smart meters – why they are pushing for them? and trying to discredit those that are calling out a potential seriously deleterious human and animal health warnings? who and why be on the side of death to the general public?
Cecilia u do have a choice I know its hard since u are disabled but look for freedomtakers.com you can purchase the letters you are suppose to send them just pay $9.95 make sure it is certified letter you sent to the electric company and give them a deadline to install the analog mechanical meter. If they don’t let them know that you will be informing ur attorney and that they are violating your federal constitutional title 18 and that you would call the cops and let them know that your rights are being violated and that it is a health hazard do some research about what you can do he has a lot of knowledge.
In the United States, the trademarked name SmartMeter is registered with the SmartSync corporation.
When I write about SmartMeters, I am writing about the radio electric meters used by PG&E (northern California).
The term smart grid, and super smart grid are not registered trademarks, just names cooked up by promoters of a more advanced power grid. We don’t have a “smart power grid” here in PG&E territory, but there are a few small regions in the U.S. and Canada that do have “smart grids”.
The SmartMeters used here are Automated Meter Reading (AMR) devices, and the radio network that collects the data built into the SmartMeters (manufactured by Silver Springs Networks) is strictly an AMR system, it is not capable of : real time total electrical use, demand response, bi-directional electricity management or recording, monitoring power quality issues or cost of service measurements.
What many people seem to be confused about is the misleading marketing and sales hype. The sales engineers like to refer to the much more advanced (and much more expensive) Advanced Meter Infrastructure (AMI) meters.
An AMI meter costs about 15 times as much as an AMR meter, and the utility corporations would never deploy such an advanced meter on any residential property unless the customer pays about $5000+ to the utility company and the additional cost of other computer and electrical equipment.
The AMR meters that PG&E uses only use the Silver Springs mesh network to communicate total electrical usage in 4 hour blocks of time in data packets to the utility.
A commercial/industrial AMI meter supposedly can transmit on a mesh network, but not a Silver Springs Network. But an AMI meter can transmit on a mobile broadband network (3-4G), Power Line Carrier (RF on power lines), RS-232, RS-485 and Analog Phone Modem. In other words, wired not wireless. AMI meters have been in use for decades in commercial/industrial applications such as large radio stations, municipal water and sewer treatment plants, solar and other generation plants, large manufacturing facilities, top secret government operations and transportation systems, etc. , etc.
An AMI meter can be programmed to support five demand measures, real time pricing, real time data monitoring, bi-directional monitoring for solar and vehicle chargers and return load to the power grid, time of use data, demand response data, transformer and line loss compensation, power factor, 4 quadrant measurements, instrument transformer correction and increased recording channels.
The AMI meters have a programmable sag and swell monitor that logs voltage sag and swell duration down to one cycle, minimum or maximum voltage, coincident current and date and time of occurance.
Voltage and current THD (Total Harmonic Distortion) per phase. TDD (Total Demand Distortion), Distortion Power Factor, Displacement Power Factor, Distortion KVA, and distortion KVAh (all recordable).
Harmonic analysis plots odd and even harmonic magnitudes and phase angles.
Programmable diagnostics for voltage imbalance, distortion, current imbalance, and high neutral current. These events may be logged, set an alert, and initiate a call in.
All these features are not to monitor any individual device or appliance down line from the meter , they are to monitor the power quality and condition of the power being fed into the AMI meter. This data is critical to the operation of any manufacturing batch plant, like cyrogenic pharmaceutical operations , pill counting and tabbing machines, food processing plants, financial equipment like currency counters, automated factories, etc. etc.
Sooo, now you know the difference between a “SmartMeter” and an advanced AMI meter, and I have never seen an AMI meter with the trademark “SmartMeter” on it.
An AMI meter is “SmarterThanSmart”, it’s SuperSlick.
Yes, it’s super slick at delivering low frequency fields throughout your home, even with the power off. It causes inflammation and damage to the central nervous system. I have found that a typical symptom, using PLC, is waking up with numb hands.
I have had numb hands since dealing with a smart meter.
I’ve been trying to figure out why! I also couldn’t sleep when they had that thing on my house. My bill also went way up due to the smart meter. Anyone that says it doesn’t affect you is a fool! I didn’t believe in any of this until it affected me. I can show MRI and spinal tap proof. It shows that my brain has inflammation now. I didn’t have this until moving into a house with a smart meter.
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SCE has already installed a smart meter at my residence without my consent. Since I have a concern about the RF danger, I am thinking about designing a Faraday cage to place around the meter. Technically speaking, a Faraday cage stops all incoming and outgoing RF so this would eliminate the RF hazard. A proper design could be achieved using steel mesh which would still allow visual reading of the meter if SCE so desires. Since the cage would only surround the meter and be mounted to MY electrical panel, I would never even physically touch SCE’s meter. I have read about some of the “opt-out” programs and I think it is “bull” that the utilities want to charge you to be in these programs. I should not have to pay extra each month to prevent SCE from poisoning my home. The way I am looking at this is : 1) I am not joining SCE’s opt-out program so they can not charge me more per month adn they get no financial benefit that way, 2) Since I have not physically touched SCE’s meter, they have no grounds for action against me, and finally 3) while protecting my family from RF hazards I can also eliminate the primary cost benefit that SCE gets from the smart meter (firing all their meter readers). Since these utilities have changed to being an IOU (investor owned utility), they only care about profits. They do not care about customer safety. If you can take away the profit potential of these meters, then SCE will drop them. Do you have any thoughts about my approach here? Any idea what you think SCE’s response will be? I do not want SCE to make money from installing a smart meter on my property. I want to legally make this a money losing proposition for SCE.
I’m in DE and I keep being told by Delmarva Power that there is no way to get the wireless meter that was installed on the house before we moved in of the house. “Everyone has one now, we’ve done away with the clock style meters and these are perfectly safe, let us send you our information that says so.”. What do I do?
Send them a certified letter, revoking permission for their wireless device to be sited on your property, and give them ten days to remove it. If they fail to comply people have been hiring an electrician to do the necessary deed for them. Show them you mean business and stop deferring to what the utility says. YOU are the customer!!
We would pay fines etc. for “tampering with the meter”. I am not a legal expert. Would I go to jail, too?
Smart meters exist with both RF and RS232 connectors. For those people who want a smart meter but are concerned about RF, you could quite easily create an RF shield which used a serial connector to something like an arduino over Ethernet. Best of both worlds right 🙂
One of my co-workers got rid of her smart meter because it made her bill go up. After paying a $75.00 fee to replace the old one and $10.00 per month for someone to come out and read the old meter, it was well worth it. Her bill dropped back down from $600 to $200 a month.
Q: I already have a “smart” meter. I don’t want it. What can I do?
Answer
get a solar system
a grid tie system uses a net meter (net metering NEM)
new ones are digital but not a smart meter
Smart meters are incompatible with NEM
SM’s only record usage one way usage, draw from grid
will not credit you for energy produced and stored on grid
Old mechanical meters are NEM capable
smart meters are not compatible with renewable energy
not so smart eh?
RE: preventing “trespass” to install devices. In our area we must sign an agreement to receive power in there they have a clause that says they ” the power company employees” can come on the property at any time to do anything they please. That means if they want to go for a Sunday stroll on the land they can. They come in and cut trees and shrubs, make huge ruts in the driveway, knock down gates, leave the mess in there wake having no plan for the fallen trees. They lie saying one thing and doing another. You chase them off and the sneak on when your not around.
AND you can do nothing because of that clause you signed and could not get hooked up to electricity with out signing. They do what they want and call themselves a cooperative.
We are in the process of building in a new home on our land in Southwest Virginia. Appalachian Power Company Rep. says “no smart meter no electricity” after having expressed my desire not to have a smart meter installed. Power company rep. says they no longer provide any analog meters and the only option we have is a smart meter.
We are not buying the power company’s BS. We are currently researching ways to stand up to the power company. Any suggestions in this matter will be highly appreciated. Please remember, we don’t have a meter yet and it appears that having electricity provided to us is contingent on us accepting the smart meter. Thank you.
Alex
I just hope you are not very far along and can make it an off the grid situation. Except of course install phone lines so you can have wired i-net and phone. For this reason many people wish they could be off the grid. Unfortunately many off the grid properties are loaded w/ poisonous wifi.
I am reading your write up on the legal authority for utilities to mandate smart meters. You reference the Energy Policy Act of 2007. I believe it the the ACT of 2005.
It is my opinion, that with the plethora of wireless devices surrounding us, ie cell phones, portable handsets, wireless computers, wireless routers, a wireless smart meter poses little additional threat to your health. Indeed, the focus on insisting that smart meters emit dangerous radiation, conveniently shifts attention from the REAL danger these devices pose, and that is the invasion of privacy.
My old analog meter measures kilowatt-hours period. A smart meter measures many other parameters, such as power factor, that when sampled at high speed can serve to provide a ‘signature’ of individual appliances and time of day use. It is not difficult for data mining software, provided with this kind of data, to easily determine the differrence between your turning on a toaster and a motorized device like a hair dryer or power tools. Add the ‘Zigby chip’ options, and it is designed to communicate and even CONTROL your appliances. Now you might think it is nice to have the power company turn on and off your A/C or furnace, for example. What you might not be realizing is that the ability to turn on and off, also allows the utility to selectively DENY SERVICE on an individual appliance…. that is to say, your clothes washer or dryer might not even be run unless it is at night during low power demand times. That is a whole different thing than providing you with the information to CHOOSE to do your laundry at night.
Further, it is possible to gather information on your usage pattern, create a profile, and sell that information to corporate sellers or manufacturuers.
I’m sorry. I just dont think we need that kind of surveillanc capability and THAT is the real objection to so called \smart’\ meters.
I don’t know why a company would purposely lose money. If these meters benefit the company in profits, then why would they limit a customer?
Can Alexa help solve a murder? Police ask Amazon for help
Not just utilities but police will data mine your habbits say goodbye to privacy in your own home
By AMY B. WANG
The Washington Post
Mike Cote’s Business Editor’s Notebook: Alexa knows the tune, but she still has a lot to learn
Undeterred by Amazon’s refusal to turn over Bates’s Echo data, detectives sought the help of a far closer source: the Bentonville utilities department.
According to police records, a city utility billing and collections manager told detectives that, on the night of Collins’s death, 140 gallons of water were used at Bates’s home between 1 and 3 a.m., an amount of water usage that exceeded all other periods there since October 2013.
“In comparison, while all four (men) were together earlier that evening, they never used more than 10 gallons of water in an hour,” police reports said. “The amount of water used between 0100-0300 hours was consistent with spraying down the back patio area, which may have resulted in the wet concrete patterns observed on the morning of November 22nd.”
The utility department’s source? Each home in Bentonville was on a smart meter, police were told, to measure and record the exact consumption of electricity and water every hour.
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Smart meters may or may not be here to stay! It may depend on the health damage they do, the privacy concerns and the costs to the public. It took years to find out the dangers of asbestos, tobacco, DDT , lead paint etc. So what can we do if a smart meter is installed on our homes? Place a faraday cage around the meter and the meter base, and ground them to the incoming water pipe or a ground rod. A faraday cage will prevent over 90 percent rf from coming in or going out of the smart meter. Make the faraday cage
removeable for inspection purposes only. magnets will do! Mark the cage as your property, with notice that the inspecting power company to replace it after inspection.
Look after your health! Your home must be your safe haven!
Who would I hire to do this for me on my home? I have chronic Lyme’s disease and must begin taking measures like these in order to reduce the EMF in my home so that I can recover from illness.
Angela Green Hudson
Try connecting with a certified Building Biology (Baubiologie) analyst. If you are in the bay area you can talk to these people: http://healthybuildingscience.com/environmental-services/green-building-consulting/building-biology/
What state do you live in?
I got a letter from DTE ( live in Garden City, Mi.) Oct. 9th stating in the next two weeks they were coming to put these in. Wednesday Oct. 16th I chained and locked my gas meter which is on the side of my house not in locked yard (right underneath my bedroom window), then I locked electric meters with things to fill in loop. Put No Trespassing Signs (I have two lots joined) on two gates, above my gas meter and on a locked open breezeway porch.
Also on the signs it states Private Property No Trespassing
I Do Not Consent To Installation Of Any Smart Or Advanced Meter.
This letter made me literally sick and couldn’t sleep until my boyfriend got back into the state to help me lock these up. I’m already sick with several serious medical problems, I don’t need more or worsened. I feel traumatized. I not only sent a certified letter to Advance Metering Team but to the the President of DTE. It was long and from the heart.
My Mom is going on 83, has two stents and a pacemaker and eventually because of her health will end up living with me so I can take care of her. I was horrified to think of these meters and her pacemaker and stated that.
Consumers Energy’s Opt Out literally is an opt out and you can keep your analog meters but DTE still wants you to pay the upfront fee and monthly fee to have the meters read but still demand the installation of the Smart (electric) & Advanced (gas) meters. Our public utilities commission is called MPSC and some judge said they can install these or lets put it this way they can install a meter. Got news for them I already have two. In-fact in June they forced me to have the gas meter that had been in basement (I bought this house in 2012) to the outside. I was adamant of them not putting in this new kind and had a supervisor here that day.
Now my old analog was from 1970 as I was told and probably had the old dials, this brand new one does have 4 digital numbers but two dials that resemble analog so it’s not 100% analog but nevertheless I don’t believe it’s the advanced. Supv. was actually very nice, they also put in a new gas service line. They did have a meter move out program. But I’ve now wondered? But the thing is they never had to enter my house to read it, it had something already on house to read it. But even news said they wanted the old gas meters out of everybody’s basement for safety issues.
Who knows. Why this disruption of our lives. You have pictures of smart meters, do you have any of the advanced meters (gas)? because they are different, shape and how mounted.
So everything’s locked, letters sent. I have an in-ground pool, the cover never came off this year or opened but in letter I stated unlocked yard would be a liability. The previous owner already had chained and locked fence because of this. They cut and damage my fence and leave yard open they’ll have a lawsuit on their hands.
It is a damn shame any human being that owns their own house has to be put through this. This is MY HOUSE, I paid for it and I own it not DTE. To sit here sick and have to worry about them now sending me a threatening letters to shut off service or to actually shut it off.
They did this over the meter move out program. But NO WAY will this work to install these toxic meters. We can’t even relax in our own homes. My bills have been always paid on time, don’t owe anybody anything. Damn, how dare they disrupt my life, threaten health of me, my Mom and cause me extra stress I do not need. I’m sick enough as it is and have enough in life to already worry about, this is insanity.
Well I just came across this so there have been people who they have shut off everything. http://www.glennbeck.com/2013/02/14/woman-battling-installation-of-smart-meters-tells-her-story-on-radio/
I sent a certified letter to DTE President and Advanced Metering Team and did get a response of insulting my intelligence. Basically said AMI meters are safe and customers can’t keep their analogs. In-fact went on to say analog meters are obsolete that can’t be purchased anymore. What a joke. Consumers Energy in Michigan Opt Out is allowing customers to keep analog meters. What DTE’s problem is don’t know or care. Mine are chained and locked. I’m stressed out and just getting sicker from all this crap.
My Home, don’t owe anybody anything and have to worry about this. Madness
Avista Utilities in Spokane, Washington entered my fenced and gated yard without my knowledge or permission and installed a smart meter.
I am told that I must keep it and I have no recourse.
Public Utilities District is one, which I will pursue. I was told I might disappear one night were I to undertake such a lofty task.
I do not want a SmartMeter. I did not ask for it. They committed trespass. They told me that by accepting their services I agree to whatever they want. I have no choice. They are a monopoly in this area.
Time for no more monopolies and controlling interest in something everyone needs. No more hostages!
Educate your neighbors and your community of the danger. You need numbers on your side. Take Back Your Power is a great tool to accomplish this.
Hello.
I’m a little scared. My utility company wears heavy boots and I’ve spoken against their putting their smartmeter on my home.
My question isn’t about that, however. I would like to know why it makes noise. The way I noticed it in the first place was the whirring and clicking sound it sometimes makes. What is that? Is it faulty?
I don’t know where else to find an answer this question. I’ve been all over the internet trying to learn.
Thanks.
Kathy
It may be neurological effects of the RF causing you to think you hear sounds when it’s only the RF altering your auditory cortex in your brain. Look up “frey effect” online
we have had our smart meter for well over a year now and recently I have noticed a steady sound almost like the furnace cutting in, but it is steady even when the furnace is shut off at night. I am now using ear plugs at night to sleep. I am worried there is something wrong . The sound is coming from this side of the house where the meter is installed.
I just want to point out that there are a number of people around the country who have chosen to go off grid or build homes off grid and have had the “authorities” come after them and tell them they are not allowed to live in a home without public utilities. There is nothing free market about any of this.
you have proof of this? I know two homes nearby that are 100% off the grid, with no interference from the authorities, making crackpot allegations like this only makes your case look bad, and severely impacts your credibility, I am looking for factual info on this and this does not help
You could face the “nuisance abatement team”.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yw3RiMdS7sE
ATTENTION: to maintain credibility you need to add a header to your faq:
DON’T PANIC if you see a digital meter.
some smart meters only transmit for a few seconds one a month when some
power companies send out a meter reader to collect data on 100s or 1000s
of dwellings at once. they neither radiate constantly and are incapable of
spying or shutting off your appliances remotely. ask your power company.
the best analogy is thayt 75% of water districts in america add flouridation.
first find out if your district does or does not add fluoridation. you should still
be vigilant because they may later decide to fluoridate and harmless smart
meters can be replaced by harmful ones. this issue is bigger than one town.
don’t panic. check before you yell at your local water or power company.
we need to face all serious issues whether or not they affect us locally.
the amount of toxic pollution is increasing exponentially and it’s only a matter
of months or a few years before it hits you anywhere in north america. if your
smart meter is not yet harmful, your unsheilded electric wires defintely are.
(everything else on this site is correct so maintain your credibility. good work.)
There is no “safe” smart meter. If it is digital, it has a switch mode power supply which puts dirty electricity onto your wiring, even if there is no transmitter. The burden of proof of safety and privacy should not be on the consumer- it should be on the utility. Bottom line is that any utility meter is not necessarily safe when utilities are installing stealth meters that look like analogs. Caveat Emptor! Buyer beware!
what is dirty electricity?
Dirty electricity: https://stopsmartmeters.org/2013/12/03/dirty-electricity-from-smart-meters-answers-from-the-experts/
I don’t understand why anybody would defend the smart meters. I got an idea if you think it will be cost saving and such a great thing then go head have a smart meter and those that choose not to let them not have them …Can anybody defending the utility company forcing a smart meter on people possibly then bang on their chest and say this is a greeat free country ..This country was made great for just that freedom of choice … If you people who love smart meters knock yourself out you want wifi go head in fact ill defend your right to have it but please defend mine not to .. You want to smoke eat junk food you do that I choose not too
I had a guy move next door this summer first thing he did was put a pole up I was in severe pain all summer severe headaches only when I left the home did it abate got to the point i couldnt move was hospitalized .. Found out later this was a hidden stealth antenna ..Ill choose to stay away …You cant apologize to people 10 yrs from now when you finally admit the evidence is overwhelming that is causes health implications
We don’t even need to discuss the issues nobody should have to explain themselfs put up with the rhetoric of idiots sayting its not a health problem lets just cause this America and give free will the say , let everybody have an option
Richard is a troll. There are people who like to comment just to stir the pot and read the comments they get. Seriously. I’ve heard them talk.. about it. Verbally !
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Privacy and legitimate health concerns are being ignored by the greedy power companies rolling out (wireless) smart meters in many countries. The idea of further saturating communities with higher levels of electromagnetic radiation from these dangerous devices, and the increasing indiscriminate use of wireless technology, terrifies those who have detailed knowledge of the adverse health effects and biological harm that microwaves are doing to populations, and to all animal and plant life on Earth.
Smart meter lunacy could well prove to be the most prominent health curse of the 21st century.
my town went to smart meters over a year ago, no problems that I know of. I also have sat TV and Internet, and even a mobile based home phone. I wonder if people would have the symptoms they claim even if it were only a dummy meter. And my father used to start the dishwasher at midnight to save on the power bill, he dies 40 years ago. No offense, people seem to complain about everything that comes down the pike, so even tho there may be something to this, it sounds like the boy crying wolf. There are tens of millions of these things, if they were so dangerous I have to think there would be more news about it.
Wow you need to look up scientific American and 5gappeal.eu. You’re clueless on how towers turn all magnetic electronics appliances into the internet of things and magnify their radiation 240 scientist worldwide. Just another sheep making comments out of his mommy’s basement most likely. Grow up.
Sir,Please give information on components involved in the smart meter
I am glad that smart meters are available. I used to see the meter readers mace/pepper spray the neighborhood dogs even if they were docile. Most people were not aware that this occurred because they were never home to see it. I am also glad that fence jumping meter readers don’t exist anymore for reasons of safety and privacy/security.
Humans matter too. And the dogs are going to be consistently ill. Not just momentarily as with spray.
With the Smart Meters, say someone is past due on their payments and they get a disconnect notice, can the electric company turn off your power via the digital process rather than sending an actual person out to do it? I’ve googled this but can’t come up with an answer.
Hi Jeri,
If its a two way AMI smart meter- the kind PG&E, SCE, SDG&E and many other utilities use then yes they have the ability to disconnect you remotely. Obviously this raises all sorts of safety issues, like inadvertently switching off households with medical devices or hackers using the feature to switch off one house, a neighborhood or an entire city. A former meter reader testified that the switch is associated with causing fires. See: https://stopsmartmeters.org/2012/12/22/two-hundred-turn-out-in-santa-rosa/
-SSM!
We were financially coerced into changing out our analog meter. The charge was either 75 dollars NOT to change out plus 10 dollars a month, or 10 dollars to not change out plus 5 dollars a month if a person was in an income based discount program.
Either way one pays to keep their old analog smart meter, is that legal to do?
I personally don’t mind them. I don’t like letting people into my house that I don’t know. So this is a major benefit especially since I was (fortunately not selected) at jury duty once a few years ago and the case was people pretending to be power/gas companies and knocking people out and tying them up to steal their stuff.
So there is that benefit
The strategic and tactical warfare doctrine for all electric utilities is basically the same: Use any deceptive, bait-and-switch, or forceful means to install a smart meter.
Once the devices are firmly planted in the majority of citizen homes and businesses, utilities and governments have networked, computerized control over energy use or cost. The overarching plan represents a dramatic para-dime shift unattainable if use of electro-mechanical, analog meters were to be continued.
While utilities implement smart grid, the scam gets larger with falsified capital investment ROI and inflated meter life cycle predictions. Customers are unnecessarily surcharged for new metering equipment. This is covert social re-engineering of energy use behavior on a world-wide scale.
I live in a large brick apartment building. On the other side of my kitchen wall ( between ten feet of open stairwell) are our floors electric meters. 6 of them are AMR. My unit is still using analog as well as about ten other units.
Will the AMR’s effect my apartment even though I have an analog reader. Does the radiation carry into my place and negatively effect my health even though my apartment is connected to the analog reader? I am positive that the two floors beneath me have them too. I called National Grid but the insisted the AMRs are not smart readers. I just signed a new year lease.
Although brick is a good material that absorbs much RF, the dirty electricity and RF still travels through all the electric lines that go to your home. Work with your neighbors and get the building on analog! An AMR meter is a smart meter and can be just as dangerous as an AMI meter. Just refuse!
I am told (by some very intellectual and enlightened people) that if you wear a metal faraday cage on your head you can eliminate the effects of smart meters. Also crystals suspended around your home will help. If you are near an energy vortex, this can increase the effects of smart meters as well.
If you will implement these solutions…….
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“Wireless smart meters emit radio-frequency microwave radiation (called “RF”), similar to that used by cell phones and wifi routers… There is no “off” switch, nor can you move it to a different location in your home.”
Based on the above criteria, you are allowed to cry foul if:
1) You don’t own a cell phone, or you do but you keep it 10-15 ft away from your head most of the time (and talk only on a headset) — that includes browsing mobile apps.
2) You cried foul when your roommate/spouse placed your home’s wifi router within 10-15′ of your living space.
Am I missing something? Is the smart meter radiation worse than the phones in our pocket all day? Worse than radiation we get when we fly in an airplane?
Just seems like the installation of smart meters are a no-brainer for further automating our infrastructure. And personally, I would REALLY like to see my home’s water usage in real time. The adjustments I could make to my irrigation and shower heads would be more accurate.
Then again, I know nothing about smart meters other than the plethora of “NO SMART METER” here signs around my neighborhood, and this website’s claims. Convince me, please.
I don’t have a cell phone or WiFi in my house. So YES I can complain. Refused meter, but neighbors are having them installed. Having constant headache, anxiety, and burning sensation since the last upgrade. I woke up with massive headache and I do not get headaches like this.Was not aware of install until hours later when power rep knocked on my door so not imaginary either.
Scientificamerican. New 5g towers turning electronics microwaves appliances and gadgets into the internet of things with much higher radiation
Are smart meters being put in apartment complexes ?
Hello, I have been paying 50$ a month for years to opt out of the smart meters. I feel this is very unfair. I have meant to do something about it like write a letter stating it is bad for my health and the health of my family. Does anyone out there have any advice? Thank you,
Lynne
Has anyone had the pleasure of asking the Snohomish County PUD, if it’s possible to opt-out of a smart meter, without them threatening you? Is there a simple paper form to print out from home, to change it back to analog? Or hire your own electrician to change it to analog? You can do web searches like I did, but I keep seeing, ‘snopud’, pop up.
If the smart meter is on the far end wall of my garage, is it still harmful to us?
Thank you
Yes, as all of the electricity, entering your home, must pass through the meter. Example: Try comparing electricity to water and the smart meter is the toilet located in front end of the water coming into your home. Your home is filled with electric fields as it radiates from the wiring located in the walls, ceiling, and sometimes floors. Just 6 volts per meter of a dirty electric field is equal to 100,000 micro watts per square meter.
Pulsed dirty electricity is far more powerful than what the meter emits wirelessly.
As interesting as this article is, and as applicable its suggestions are with respect to WiFi and RF data acquisition techniques that suggest that a user of electricity may “opt-out” of a Smart Meter, when the Smart Meter uses TWACS (Two Way Automatic Communication System) used with a PLC (Power Line Carrier) system is in use is INCORRECT.
The “dirty electricity” that TWACS produces is not able to be avoided by “opting-out”, neither is it filterable. Properly disconnecting the user from the “grid” is THE only way to avoid SOME of the deleterious health effects of TWACS.
See http://tinyurl.com/y79tjl66 for a thorough and informed discussion of TWACS.
I was told the state of Idaho I have no choice. Option 1 get the meter, Option 2 still get the meter but pay to have it removed from my house, Option 3 no power. This is after sending a certified letter.
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Hi, I have a question. I had the communication chip removed from my smart meter. Is this enough to limit exposure? Thanks
Hi Maryam,
If the utility company did actually remove the communications chip (and often they just turn it off or just tell you they did) it will not be emitting RF but it may be emitting dirty electricity through your home. We sell the Trifield PowerLine Meter in our online store that can diagnose this type of unwanted radiation. Better to insist on an analog meter and not back down from that position!
So I tried to stop getting a smart meter and they’re gonna charge me almost $13 more a month just not to have it
You couldn’t pay me any dollar amount to have a smart meter on my home.
The dominant electric utility in SE Michigan has just implemented time of day rates on all users as of 03/01/23. The MI Public Service Commission approved several different user preferences but the “default” rate if you don’t make the choice is (of course) much higher. When I called to complain about not being able to “choose” my rate a supervisor called back within 3 minutes requesting a “RECALIBRATION” of my smart meter. I am concerned that they will harm my usage in some way because I made a complaint. Is anyone aware that choosing a certain time of day rate could require RECALIBRATION? Isn’t the smart meter (don’t currently know the type) ALREADY sending this information to the Utility at least every 15 minutes? I am considering blocking them from the building where I rent. They have “co-located” 12 smart meters in our basement. Renters have little to no power if owners approve of smart meters. I will call and try to “cancel” the appt. they demanded. Anyone ever hear of this happening? Of course I wish I could get them ALL removed.
My Condo Association is “making” everyone have a water meter put INSIDE their condo so each unit can be billed separately for their water usage. They say it is not a smart meter. It is a transmitter that emits data to a bank of smart meters. So does this “transmitter” emit enough EMFs to affect me? I don’t like the fact that it is going to be INSIDE my unit. I am going to put an EMF shield over the water meter, but I don’t think they should be allowed INSIDE my unit to put such a meter whether it’s just a transmitter or actually a smart meter. Is the transmitter and the smart meter one in the same? And what can I do to keep them from putting it inside? Demand they put it outside; deny them entrance; hire a lawyer? Suggestions?
I would advise looking up the bylaws of your assn. HOA’s etc. are pretty much always a bad idea, but you still have rights. Look up what easement they are using to justify invading your house. Write them a certified letter and refuse to allow the meter inside. If it is digital and it is transmitting it is a smart meter and you should refuse it.